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Messiah is PreExistence

 

Talmud - Mas. Pesachim 54a - Seven things were created before the world was created, and these are they: ...and the name of the Messiah. ... 26

The name of the Messiah, as it is written, His [sc. the Messiah's] name shall endure for ever, and has exited before the sun! 31

(26) Prov. VIII, 22.

Prov.8 [22] The LORD possessed me (Messiah) in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.


[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
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25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
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26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
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27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
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28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
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29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
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30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
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31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

(31) Ps. LXXII, 17.

Pss.72 [17] His name (Messiah) shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.

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Genesis Rabba 1:4

R
. Shim'on ben Laqish explained: "and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water (Gen. 1:2) - in this the spirit of King Messiah, as it is written, And the spirit of the Lord will rest upon him (Isa. 11:2). By what merit will it [the spirit of the Messiah] come?... By the merit of repentance."
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Genesis Rabba 2:4

You
find that at the beginning of the creation of the world King Messiah was born [and] that he emerged in the thought [of God] even before the world was created...


Pesiqta Rabbati (Greater Chapter), edit. by M. Friedmann, p. 152b

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that hour [in the days of Creation] the Holy One, blessed be He, appointed four animals for him [the Messiah] to carry the Throne of Honor of the Messiah. In that hour his enemies and the [celestial] princes of the kingdoms said: "Come, let us bring charges against the generation of the Messiah, so that they may never be created." But the Holy One, blessed be He, said to them: "How dare you accuse that generation which is beloved and dear, and in which I rejoice, and which I desire? I shall support it and want it... And how dare you accuse it? Behold, I shall destroy all of you..."

Pesiqta Rabbati, ch. 35

Source: "The Messiah Texts", by Raphael Patai (Avon Books, 1979)

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Messiah is PreExistence

Pss. 102 [25] Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.[26] They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
[27] But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

Heb.1

[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
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2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
[3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
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4] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

[10] And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:[11] They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; [12] And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Heb. 13:8 "Yeshua the Messiah - the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

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John 17 [5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

[24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Revelation 1 [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 2 [8] And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 22 [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

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Isa.48 [16] Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.( Messiah)

John.1 [1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
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3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1Tim. 3 [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

John 8 [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Colossians 1 [12] Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
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13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
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14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
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16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
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17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[18] And he is the head of the body, the (set-apart ones) church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
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19] For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
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20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him,

 

Mic. 5 [2] But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Matt. 2 [1] Now when Yeshua was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

[5] And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, ( Micah) [6] And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

1Cor. 10 [1] Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
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2] And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
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3] And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
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4] And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Messiah.

[9] Neither let us tempt Messiah, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

Luke 10 [18] And he said unto them, I ( Messiah Yeshua) beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

1Tim. 3 [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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Name of the Messiah

Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 98b

Rab said: The world was created only on David's account .24 Samuel said: On Moses account;25 R. Johanan said: For the sake of the Messiah. What is his [the Messiah's] name? — The School of R. Shila said: His name is Shiloh, for it is written, until Shiloh come.26 The School of R. Yannai said: His name is Yinnon, for it is written, His name shall endure for ever:27 e'er the sun was, his name is Yinnon.28 The School of R. Haninah maintained: His name is Haninah, as it is written, Where I will not give you Haninah.29 Others say: His name is Menahem the son of Hezekiah,for it is written, Because Menahem [‘the comforter’ ], that would relieve my soul, is far.30

The Rabbis said: His name is ‘the leper scholar, as it is written, Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him a leper, smitten of God, and afflicted.31

Isa.53 [4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Shalom

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