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From the Stone Edition of the Chumash ( Chumash means five in hebrew ) , Parashat Mishpatim ( Judgments ) and the website,

This is false doctrine: They say the Torah has a prohibition of eating meat with milk together, wrong!

Rashi :

(Deut. 8:8). -[From Bik. 3:1] You shall not cook a kid.

Heb. גְּדִי . A calf and a lamb are also included in [the term] גְּדִי , for גְּדִי is only an expression of a tender young animal. [This you know] from what you find in many places in the Torah where גְּדִי is written, and it was necessary to write after it עִזִים [to qualify it as a kid], for example, “I will send you a kid גְּדִי עִזִים ” (Gen. 38:17); “the kid גְּדִי הָעִזִים ” (Gen. 38:20); “two kids עִזִים גְּדָיֵי ” (Gen. 27:9); to teach you that wherever גְּדִי is mentioned unqualified, it also means a calf and a lamb. This [prohibition] is written in three places in the Torah, one for the prohibition of eating [meat with milk], one for the prohibition of deriving any benefit [from meat with milk], and one for the prohibition of cooking [meat with milk]. -[From Chul. 113b, 115b]

The scriptures below are not saying don't eat milk or milk products with meat.

Exod.23[ 19] The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.

Exod.34[ 26] The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.

Deut.14[ 21] Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.

The Lord,(not Metatron), Angels, Abraham and David ate milk and meat:

Rashi: This is [the angel] Metatron, whose name is like the name of his Master (Sanh. 38b). Gen.18[ 1] And the LORD appeared unto him וַיֵּרָא אֵלָיו יְהוָה in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2] And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him : and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground ,[3] And said, My Lord, אֲדֹנָי if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:[ 4 ] Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:[ 5 ] And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.[ 6 ] And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.[7 ] And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.[8] And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

King David and his men ate milk and meat:

2Sam.17[ 27] And it came to pass, when David was come to Mahanaim, that Shobi the son of Nahash of Rabbah of the children of Ammon, and Machir the son of Ammiel of Lo-debar, and Barzillai the Gileadite of Rogelim,[28] Brought beds, and basons, and earthen vessels, and wheat, and barley, and flour, and parched corn, and beans, and lentiles, and parched pulse ,[29 ] And honey, and butter, and sheep, and cheese of kine, for David, and for the people that were with him, to eat: for they said, The people is hungry, and weary, and thirsty, in the wilderness.


This is made up in Rashi's commentary:

The seven commandments that the Noachides were commanded [to observe], in addition to [keeping] the Sabbath, honoring one’s father and mother, [the laws of] the red cow, and laws of jurisprudence, which were given to them in Marah . -[Mechilta on Exod. 19:10, Sanh. 56b] [Since this was before the giving of the Torah, there were only these commandments and ordinances.]

Lets look at the Hebrew:

10- Exod.24[ 9] Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:[10 ] And they saw the God of Israel: וַיִּרְאוּ, אֵת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל and there was under his feet וְתַחַת רַגְלָיו as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Rashi say: ( red font is mine )

10. like the forming of a sapphire brick. that was before Him at the time of the bondage, to remember Israel’s straits [i.e.,] that they were enslaved in the making of bricks. -[From Lev. Rabbah 23:8] and they ( SAW not just ) perceived the God of Israel.


Scripture says:

Exod. 24 [11] And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, וַיֶּחֱזוּ, אֶת־הָאֱלֹהִים and did eat and drink .

וַיֶּחֱזוּ particle conjunction, verb qal vav consec imperfect 3rd person masculine plural

Vav Consecutive: וַ The vav consecutive , formerly called " conversive, " has the effect of linking clauses together.

It often seems to flip the translation of the imperfect so that it is translated as the past tense. The perfect will be flipped and translated as the future. It actually just continues the flow of the first verb in the narrative stream.

The vav consecutive can also be used to subordinate one clause to another.

H2372 חזה chazah khaw-zaw A primitive root; to gaze at; mentally to perceive , contemplate (with pleasure); specifically to have a vision of: - behold, look , prophesy, provide, see.


BDB Definition: 1) to see, perceive, look, behold , prophesy, provide 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to see, behold


Rashi says:

11. And upon the nobles. They are Nadab and Abihu and the elders. -[From Midrash Tanchuma Beha’alothecha 16] He did not lay His hand. This indicates that they deserved that a hand be laid upon them. and they ( SAW not just) perceived God.


Can you believe this:

The term "Our Sages disagree" on the matter of.. shows up a few times in this commentary of Rashi.


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