One in Messiah Congregation


Day of Atonement study


7th month ha ethanim, 1 Kings 8:2, not Tishri


Neither Moses nor David had the "Temple",


this is not a requirement.


Solomon built the 1st Temple.

Since 1948, there is a Israel again. They are not in captivity.


The "BLOOD" is still required.


If one of the requirements was to fast (tsom, tsum), on the Day of Atonement, why simply did not YHVH tell us?


"The word "fast" - tsum, tsom is not found in the Torah.

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This study has nothing to due with, when Moses went up to the Lord in the mount and did not eat or drink. (two times)

I venture to say, when you are in the presence of the Lord, like Moses was, eating and drinking is the last thing on you mind.

Exod. 24 [18] And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

Exod. 34 [28] And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Neither is the word "fast" - tusm, tsom, in those scriptures.

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Exod.30

[10] And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the BLOOD of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.

Lev.16

[15] Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his BLOOD within the vail, and do with that BLOOD as he did with the BLOOD of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:

[18] And he shall go out unto the altar that is before the LORD, and make an atonement for it; and shall take of the BLOOD of the bullock, and of the BLOOD of the goat, and put it upon the horns of the altar round about.

[19] And he shall sprinkle of the BLOOD upon it with his finger seven times, and cleanse it, and hallow it from the uncleanness of the children of Israel.

[27] And the bullock for the sin offering, and the goat for the sin offering, whose BLOOD was brought in to make atonement in the holy place, shall one carry forth without the camp; and they shall burn in the fire their skins, and their flesh, and their dung.

 

[34] And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses

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The verses below are 100's of years after Exodus.

The verses below have nothing to do with the Day of Atonement.

Pss.35

[13] But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.

Pss.69

[10] When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.

Ezra.8

[21] Then I proclaimed a fast there, at the river of Ahava, that we might afflict ourselves before our God, to seek of him a right way for us, and for our little ones, and for all our substance.

Isa.58

[3] Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

[5] Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

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Please find below backup material to explain the words "afflict" and "fast".

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Here is the Hebrew word "fast" - Tsum - Tsom

 

"The word "fast" - tsum, tsom is not found in the Torah"

 

H6685 tsôm tsôm - tsome, tsome - From H6684; a fast: - fast (-ing).

BDB Definition: fast, fasting - Part of Speech: noun masculine

 

fast, 16 times

1Ki_21:9, 1Ki_21:12, 2Ch_20:3, Ezr_8:21, Isa_58:3, Isa_58:5-6 (3), Jer_36:9, Joe_2:14-15 (2), Jon_3:5, Zec_8:19 (4)

fasting, 8 times

Neh_9:1, Est_4:3, Psa_35:13, Psa_69:10, Psa_109:24, Jer_36:6, Dan_9:3, Joe_2:12

fastings, 1 time

Est_9:31

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H6684 tsûm, tsoom - A primitive root; to cover over (the mouth), that is, to fast.

BDB Definition: 1) (Qal) to abstain from food, fast - Part of Speech: verb

fasted, 12 times

Jdg_20:26, 1Sa_7:6, 1Sa_31:13, 2Sa_1:12, 2Sa_12:16, 2Sa_12:22, 1Ki_21:27, 1Ch_10:12, Ezr_8:23, Neh_1:4, Isa_58:3, Zec_7:5

fast, 8 times

2Sa_12:21, 2Sa_12:23, Est_4:16 (2), Isa_58:4 (2), Jer_14:12, Zec_7:5

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"afflict" is never used as the word "fast"

 

H6030 ‛ânâh, aw-naw' - A primitive root; properly to eye or (generally) to heed, that is, pay attention; by implication to respond; by extension to begin to speak; specifically to sing, shout, testify, announce: - give account, afflict [by mistake for H6031], (cause to, give) answer, bring low [by mistake for H6031], cry, hear, Leannoth, lift up, say, scholar, (give a) shout, sing (together by course), speak, testify, utter, (bear) witness.

 

BDB Definition:

1) to answer, respond, testify, speak, shout

1a) (Qal)

1a1) to answer, respond to

1a2) to testify, respond as a witness

1b) (Niphal)

1b1) to make answer

1b2) to be answered, receive answer

2) (Qal) to sing, utter tunefully

3) (Qal) to dwell

Part of Speech: verb

 

answered, 174 times

Gen_18:27, Gen_23:5, Gen_23:10, Gen_23:14, Gen_24:50, Gen_27:37, Gen_27:39, Gen_31:14, Gen_31:31, Gen_31:36, Gen_31:43, Gen_34:13, Gen_35:3, Gen_40:18, Gen_41:16, Gen_42:22, Exo_4:1, Exo_15:21, Exo_19:8, Exo_19:19, Exo_24:3, Num_11:28, Num_22:18, Num_23:12, Num_23:26, Num_32:31, Deu_1:14, Deu_1:41, Jos_1:16, Jos_7:20, Jos_9:24, Jos_22:21, Jos_24:16, Jdg_5:29, Jdg_7:14, Jdg_8:8 (2), Jdg_18:14, Jdg_19:28, Jdg_20:4, Rth_2:6, Rth_2:11, 1Sa_1:15, 1Sa_4:17 (2), 1Sa_4:20, 1Sa_9:8, 1Sa_9:12, 1Sa_9:19, 1Sa_9:21, 1Sa_14:12 (2), 1Sa_14:28, 1Sa_14:37, 1Sa_14:39, 1Sa_16:18, 1Sa_18:7, 1Sa_20:28, 1Sa_20:32, 1Sa_21:4-5 (2), 1Sa_22:9, 1Sa_22:14, 1Sa_23:4, 1Sa_25:10, 1Sa_26:6, 1Sa_26:14, 1Sa_26:22, 1Sa_28:6, 1Sa_28:15, 1Sa_29:9, 1Sa_30:22, 2Sa_13:32, 2Sa_14:18-19 (2), 2Sa_19:21 (2), 2Sa_19:42-43 (2), 2Sa_20:20, 2Sa_22:42, 1Ki_1:28, 1Ki_1:36, 1Ki_1:43, 1Ki_2:22, 1Ki_2:30, 1Ki_3:27, 1Ki_12:13, 1Ki_13:6, 1Ki_18:21, 1Ki_18:24, 1Ki_18:26, 1Ki_20:4, 1Ki_20:11, 2Ki_1:10-12 (3), 2Ki_3:11, 2Ki_7:2, 2Ki_7:13, 2Ki_7:19, 2Ki_18:36, 1Ch_12:17, 1Ch_21:26, 1Ch_21:28, 2Ch_10:13, 2Ch_29:31, 2Ch_34:15, Ezr_10:2, Ezr_10:12, Neh_8:6, Est_7:3, Job_1:7, Job_1:9, Job_2:2, Job_2:4, Job_9:1 (4), Job_9:16, Job_11:1-2 (2), Job_26:1 (11), Job_32:6, Job_32:12, Job_32:15-16 (2), Job_40:1 (3), Job_40:3, Job_40:6, Job_42:1, Psa_18:41, Psa_81:7, Psa_99:6, Psa_118:5, Isa_21:9, Isa_36:21, Jer_7:13, Jer_11:5, Jer_23:35, Jer_23:37, Jer_35:17, Jer_44:15, Amo_7:14, Mic_6:5, Hab_2:2, Hag_2:12-14 (3), Zec_1:10-13 (4), Zec_4:4-6 (4), Zec_4:11-12 (2), Zec_6:5

answer, 60 times

Gen_30:33, Gen_41:16, Gen_45:3, Deu_20:11, Deu_21:7, Deu_25:9, Deu_27:15, 1Sa_20:10, 1Ki_12:7, 1Ki_18:29, 2Ki_4:29, 2Ki_18:36, Job_5:1, Job_9:3, Job_9:14-15 (2), Job_9:32, Job_13:22, Job_19:15-16 (2), Job_20:3, Job_23:5, Job_31:35, Job_32:1, Job_32:17, Job_32:20, Job_35:12 (2), Job_40:2, Job_40:5, Psa_27:7, Psa_65:5, Psa_86:7, Psa_91:15, Psa_102:2, Psa_108:6, Psa_119:42, Psa_143:1, Pro_15:28 (2), Son_5:4-6 (3), Isa_14:32, Isa_30:19, Isa_36:21, Isa_46:7, Isa_50:2, Isa_58:9, Isa_65:12, Isa_65:24, Isa_66:4, Jer_7:27, Jer_42:3-4 (2), Jer_44:20, Eze_14:4, Eze_14:7, Joe_2:19, Hab_2:11

hear, 30 times

1Sa_8:18, 1Ki_18:26, 1Ki_18:37 (2), Job_30:20, Psa_4:1, Psa_13:3, Psa_17:6, Psa_20:1, Psa_20:6, Psa_20:9, Psa_38:15-16 (2), Psa_55:2, Psa_60:5, Psa_69:13, Psa_69:16-17 (2), Psa_86:1, Psa_119:145, Psa_143:7, Isa_41:17, Hos_2:21-22 (5), Mic_3:4, Zec_10:6, Zec_13:9

heard, 11 times

1Sa_7:9, Job_19:7, Psa_3:4, Psa_22:21, Psa_34:4, Psa_118:21, Psa_120:1, Pro_21:13, Hos_14:8 (2), Jon_2:2

testify, 8 times

Num_35:30, Deu_19:16, Deu_31:21, Job_15:6, Isa_59:12, Jer_14:7, Hos_5:5, Mic_6:3

answereth, 6 times

1Sa_28:15, 1Ki_18:24, Job_12:4, Pro_18:23, Ecc_5:20, Ecc_10:19

speak, 5 times

Exo_23:2, Deu_26:5, Deu_27:14, Psa_119:172, Isa_14:10

sing, 4 times

Num_21:17, 1Sa_21:11, Psa_147:7, Hos_2:15

spake, 3 times

Job_3:2, Job_35:1, Son_2:10

testified, 3 times

Deu_19:18, Rth_1:21, 2Sa_1:16

answeredst, 2

Psa_99:8, Psa_138:3

answerest, 2 times

1Sa_26:14, Job_16:3

bear, 2 times

Exo_20:16, Deu_5:20

beareth, 2 times

Job_16:8, Pro_25:18

cry, 2 times

Exo_32:18 (2), Isa_13:22

sang, 2 times

1Sa_29:5, Ezr_3:11

shout, 2 times

Exo_32:18, Jer_25:30

witness, 2 times

1Sa_12:3, Job_16:8

account, 1 time

Job_33:13

brought, 1 time

Isa_25:5

heardest, 1 time

Psa_119:26

hearest, 1 time

Psa_22:2

leannoth, 1 time

Psa_88:1

lift, 1 time

Jer_51:14

low, 1 time

Isa_25:5

said, 1 time

1Sa_9:17

scholar, 1 time

Mal_2:12

testifieth, 1 time

Hos_7:10

utter, 1 time

Job_15:2

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H6031 ‛ânâh, aw-naw' - A primitive root (possibly rather identical with H6030 through the idea of looking down or browbeating); to depress literally or figuratively, transitively or intransitively (in various applications). (sing is by mistake for H6030.): - abase self, afflict (-ion, self), answer [by mistake for H6030], chasten self, deal hardly with, defile, exercise, force, gentleness, humble (self), hurt, ravish, sing [by mistake for H6030], speak [by mistake for H6030], submit self, weaken, in any wise.

 

BDB Definition:

1) (Qal) to be occupied, be busied with

2) to afflict, oppress, humble, be afflicted, be bowed down

2a) (Qal)

2a1) to be put down, become low

2a2) to be depressed, be downcast

2a3) to be afflicted

2a4) to stoop

2b) (Niphal)

2b1) to humble oneself, bow down

2b2) to be afflicted, be humbled

2c) (Piel)

2c1) to humble, mishandle, afflict

2c2) to humble, be humiliated

2c3) to afflict

2d4) to humble, weaken oneself

2d) (Pual)

2d1) to be afflicted

2d2) to be humbled

2e) (Hiphil) to afflict

2f) (Hithpael)

2f1) to humble oneself

2f2) to be afflicted

Part of Speech: verb

 

 

afflict, 29 times

Gen_15:13, Gen_31:50, Exo_1:11, Exo_22:22-23 (2), Lev_16:29, Lev_16:31, Lev_23:27, Lev_23:32, Num_24:24 (2), Num_29:7, Num_30:13, Jdg_16:5-6 (2), Jdg_16:19, 2Sa_7:10, 1Ki_11:39, 2Ch_6:26, Ezr_8:21, Job_37:23, Psa_55:19, Psa_89:22, Isa_58:5 (2), Isa_64:12, Lam_3:33, Nah_1:12, Zep_3:19

afflicted, 21 times

Exo_1:12, Lev_23:29, Deu_26:6, 1Ki_2:26 (2), 2Ki_17:20, Job_30:11, Psa_88:7, Psa_90:15, Psa_107:17, Psa_116:10, Psa_119:67, Psa_119:71, Psa_119:75, Psa_119:107, Isa_53:4, Isa_53:7, Isa_58:3, Isa_58:10, Isa_60:14, Nah_1:12

humbled, 7 times

Deu_8:3, Deu_21:14, Deu_22:24, Deu_22:29, Psa_35:13, Eze_22:10-11 (2)

forced, 4 times

Jdg_20:5, 2Sa_13:14, 2Sa_13:22, 2Sa_13:32

humble, 4 times

Exo_10:3, Deu_8:2, Deu_8:16, Jdg_19:24

exercised, 2 times

Ecc_1:13, Ecc_3:10

sing, 2 times

Exo_32:18, Isa_27:2

abase, 1 time

Isa_31:4

afflictest, 1 time

1Ki_8:35

afflictions, 1 time

Psa_132:1

chasten, 1 time

Dan_10:12

defiled, 1 time

Gen_34:2

force, 1 time

2Sa_13:12

gentleness, 1 time

2Sa_22:36

hardly, 1 time

Gen_16:6

hurt, 1 time

Psa_105:18

ravished, 1 time

Lam_5:11

submit, 1 time

Gen_16:9

troubled, 1 time

Zec_10:2

weakened, 1 time

Psa_102:23

wise, 1 time

Exo_22:23 (2)

 

What more can I say?

 

Shalom

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