One in Messiah Congregation - April 15, 2006

Christian Pastors are upset their people are keeping "Jewish feasts" and use only N.T. verses to defend them.

Jews in Judaism are upset that gentiles churches are keeping "Jewish feasts" taking over their traditions.

I see Satan dividing again

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I listed only 13 issues below, there are others. Let's examine these issues.

1. feasts of the Jews?, Moses? NO - feasts of the LORD מוֹעֲדֵי יְהוָה

not Jewish feasts, not feasts of Moses

2. memorial זִכָּרוֹן

3. How long do we keep these feasts?

unto all generations

4. ordinance for ever חֻקַּת עוֹלָם

5. a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings חֻקַּת עוֹלָם בְּכָל־מוֹשְׁבֹתֵיכֶם, לְדֹרֹתֵיכֶם

6. a feast to the LORD throughout your generations חַג לַיהוָה : לְדֹרֹתֵיכֶם, חֻקַּת עוֹלָם תְּחָגֻּהוּ

תָּחֹגּוּ אֶת־חַג

חגג chagag khaw-gag' - A primitive root - properly to move in a circle, that is, (specifically) to march in a sacred procession, to observe a festival; by implication to be giddy: - celebrate, dance, (keep, hold) a (solemn) feast (holiday), reel to and fro.

7. Is Israel forsaken? Did the gentile church take Israel's place? NO!

1Sam.12[ 22] For the LORD will not forsake his people for his great name's sake: because it hath pleased the LORD to make you his people.

Rom.11[ 1] I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.[2 ] God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,[ 3] Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.[4] But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.[5 ] Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.[6 ] And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.[7] What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded[8 ] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
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9] And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:[10] Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. [11] I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.[12] Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?[13 ] For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
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14] If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. [15] For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? [16] For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.[17] And if some of the branches be broken off , and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;[ 18] Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.[ 19] Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.[20 ] Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
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21] For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.[ 22] Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.[ 23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.[24] For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?[25 ] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel , until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:[27 ] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.[28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.[ 29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.[30] For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:[31] Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.[32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.[ 33] O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out![34 ] For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller?[35] Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?[ 36] For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

8. The feasts "were" a shadow of things to come? - Colossians 2 out of context - old issue

Col.2[ 17] Which "are" ( future tense ) a shadow of things to come ; but the body is of Christ.

Paul said this to the Colossians after the Lord had rose from the dead.

9. Sabbath is over? NO - old issue

10. eat unclean foods? NO - old issue

11. Gentile believers keep Passover? YES!

Exod.12[ 48] And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised , and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.[49 ] One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

12. Gentile believers keep Sabbath? YES!

Isa.56[ 3] Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

[6] Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;[ 7] Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

13. How many bodies of Messiah are there?

Lev.19[ 34] But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

כְּאֶזְרָח מִכֶּם יִהְיֶה לָכֶם הַגֵּר הַגָּר אִתְּכֶם, וְאָהַבְתָּ לוֹ כָּמוֹךָ־־כִּי־גֵרִים הֱיִיתֶם, בְּאֶרֶץ מִצְרָיִם: אֲנִי, יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם

Ezek.47 [22] And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel . כְּאֶזְרָח בִּבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל־־אִתְּכֶם יִפְּלוּ בְנַחֲלָה, בְּתוֹךְ שִׁבְטֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל

1Cor.10 [17] For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread .

Rom.12[ 4] For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

[5] So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

1Cor.12[ 12] For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body : so also is Christ.

[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body , whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

[20] But now are they many members, yet but one body .

Eph.2[ 16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Eph.4[ 4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Col.3[ 15] And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

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Some scriptures for backup

Lev.23[ 2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

[4] These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

[33] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,[34 ] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.[35] On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.[ 36] Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein. [37] These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:[38] Beside the sabbaths of the LORD , and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.[ 39] Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.[40 ] And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days.[ 41] And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.[ 42] Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:[ 43] That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.[44 ] And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.

memorial זִכָּרוֹן

noun - Something, such as a monument or holiday, intended to celebrate or honor the memory of a person or an event. A written statement of facts or a petition presented to a legislative body or an executive.

adj. Serving as a remembrance of a person or an event; commemorative. Of, relating to, or being in memory

Exod.3[ 15] And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. זִכְרִי לְדֹר דֹּר

[22 ] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever :

Exod.12[ 14] And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

וְהָיָה הַיּוֹם הַזֶּה לָכֶם לְזִכָּרוֹן, וְחַגֹּתֶם אֹתוֹ חַג לַיהוָה: לְדֹרֹתֵיכֶם, חֻקַּת עוֹלָם תְּחָגֻּהוּ

[17 ] And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

[24] And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever.

[43] And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof:

Exod.13[ 9] And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.[ 10] Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.

Exod.15[ 25] And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there he made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there he proved them,

Exod.18[ 20] And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do.

Lev.23[ 24] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

Lev.23[ 14] And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

[21] And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations .

[31] Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

[41] And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.

Lev.23[ 14] And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

[21] And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.

[31] Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

[41] And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.

Exod.12[ 14] And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

Lev.23[ 14] And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

[21] And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.

[31] Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

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